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[the first of the ADFGVX codes has been solved - see
[discussion of the second code here
i got the extra Q as well.
posting working here so far:
10R, 34L, 25L, 39L
IZYCJ KGLQB CADFI NXBF KPZTL ZJFVO KTZJR RORYC LSSHL EKFXL H
GJNZK RGHHL DXXUR LMYPK PBKWO SVMVI RMZUZ HFSIV MWDIM EJDEJ
LZLGG TGFSE ERGCL FPEJV VSTOY RLTTW LVXTY ZIYBX KULZU SXCVZ I I XES
GNFZN MTDST TDZBD CPHZL DDBGO QRKPD EXQWB HFEVQ QOHGU KFCNE RZHQX
output from enigma:
<- enigma decoder
<- adfgvx decoder
Some of the five letter codes would seem to be adfgx or adfgvx ciphers these are on pages:
Mentioned on page 21(right) in the codebreakers bible a six by six grid:
Could be the correct grid but even if it isn't frequency analysis may help get the correct letters.
(Im working on creating an excel spreadsheet to try and solve them, will try and put here when done)
---At least 4 codes with ADFGVX in them on pages 6,9,10,20 resp.:
fixed 2 typos on the first two lines --dave
AFADA AXGXA FAFAX DXAVG DFDDD FAFDF AFDAA DFAFF FFDAA FAFGF
AGADD XFFFD FGDDF DDVAF DAFAA DAFGX DDGAF DFVGD GXGDA VFVAD
FFDDF FFVDV AXFAG VDDFD FFADA VDAFF AFGFF DADAF AXFAA FAVGG
GFFFD DVADG FFDAA AAAXG VGDFX AVDDG DDFFF GAGAF XFFGX GDAAF
FXAFA XAGGV FDGVG DAVDV AFGFF XDDDF DXDFD AFVGX FFGVF DAXGF [missed one page 29 --dave]
note: the four codes above are mirrored.
page 21 right has words in the margins in red which refers to the transposition keyword HARDY - and 'standard alph'.
I am having trouble decoding them. Maybe it is not the right keyword, and/or they are not in the right order.
Is what I got:
I would expect something like a sentence as the output not a bunch of seemingly random numbers and letters.. --dave
There is a cipher page here:
The only problem seems to be that ADFGVX code should be in groups of 4 letters not 5.
I've seen it in groups of 5 also, e.g. in the wikipedia link and here:
The grouping was done to assist radio operator accuracy, so the grouping is not important I think. --dave
Here is another decoder:
the default keyquare string: 8P3D1NLT4OAH7KBC5ZJU6WGMXSVIR29EY0FQ
it can decrypt and encrypt strings. --dave
HARDY could be the keyword - it would make sence for it to have a length of 5. There are 5 ADFGVX codes in the book, but we don't know if they are to be decrypted individually or together or in smaller groups eg 3 and 1 or 2 and 2 etc. And, the problem with the above decoder is that you can't change the order of the letters/numbers in the middle.
Good news is that I found this:
You can use this to put in your own formation of the alphabet and numbers. Bad news is that theres a LOT of combinations for this...
I think it is a case of testing out the 2^5 combinations. --dave
It may be possible with the longer one to use any alphabet, frequency analysis should then give the correct letters...
It is also possible that the keyword is HARD as the word is written as HARDy...
Also first code does not use V so may be adfgx cipher(slightly different)... (actually all codes have a V - on the first line this occurs in the 4th block of letters --dave)
This is an attempt at frequency analysis on the first section of code.
How did you get that string of letters? - Patel267
I used an online decoder (decoding using adfgx) With any random alphabet.
I think it might just use the standard alphabet (ref. pg21)
Also this might help:
I think they need to be decoded seperatly, frequency analysis on them decoded all together shows this to be the case.
My theory is that the numbers on the associated pages e.g. 252 on page 10
link together the order.. --dave.
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