[the first of the ADFGVX codes has been solved - see http://crackthebbccode.wikispaces.com/CBB%27s+Codes+and+I+Chings ]

[discussion of the second code here http://crackthebbccode.wikispaces.com/message/view/Partial+Solutions/41379537#41385787 ]
i got the extra Q as well.

posting working here so far:

KNE BZ
10R, 34L, 25L, 39L
IZYCJ KGLQB CADFI NXBF KPZTL ZJFVO KTZJR RORYC LSSHL EKFXL H
GJNZK RGHHL DXXUR LMYPK PBKWO SVMVI RMZUZ HFSIV MWDIM EJDEJ
LZLGG TGFSE ERGCL FPEJV VSTOY RLTTW LVXTY ZIYBX KULZU SXCVZ I I XES
GNFZN MTDST TDZBD CPHZL DDBGO QRKPD EXQWB HFEVQ QOHGU KFCNE RZHQX

output from enigma:

DFFADFVAAGFGFDDGADDFDFVADGGDVFVDXFAFGGDAADDGXFXAXAFGFGVDAFAAXGFFAGDFXAVGVFDADAFAXAAAAFDAVGXGXFXGVFAFGDVDAFDAAGGADAGADFFFDAXADDADDFXFVGXAFAVGDFVAVFVADGVQVAAFDGGAVAFAFFVDVGXGFFVAAAFGADXFXDGAFGVAVAFFAFXFVADAAGAADD

http://startpad.googlecode.com/hg/labs/js/enigma/enigma-sim.html <- enigma decoder
http://www.cryptool-online.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=81&Itemid=91&lang=en <- adfgvx decoder

--dave



Some of the five letter codes would seem to be adfgx or adfgvx ciphers these are on pages:
  • 6(left)
  • 10(left)
  • 20(right)

Mentioned on page 21(right) in the codebreakers bible a six by six grid:

A
D
F
G
V
X
A
8
P
3
D
1
N
D
L
T
4
O
A
H
F
7
K
B
C
5
Z
G
J
U
6
W
G
M
V
X
S
V
I
R
2
X
9
E
Y
0
F
Q
Could be the correct grid but even if it isn't frequency analysis may help get the correct letters.
(Im working on creating an excel spreadsheet to try and solve them, will try and put here when done)

---At least 4 codes with ADFGVX in them on pages 6,9,10,20 resp.:

fixed 2 typos on the first two lines --dave

AFADA AXGXA FAFAX DXAVG DFDDD FAFDF AFDAA DFAFF FFDAA FAFGF

AGADD XFFFD FGDDF DDVAF DAFAA DAFGX DDGAF DFVGD GXGDA VFVAD

FFDDF FFVDV AXFAG VDDFD FFADA VDAFF AFGFF DADAF AXFAA FAVGG

GFFFD DVADG FFDAA AAAXG VGDFX AVDDG DDFFF GAGAF XFFGX GDAAF

FXAFA XAGGV FDGVG DAVDV AFGFF XDDDF DXDFD AFVGX FFGVF DAXGF [missed one page 29 --dave]


note: the four codes above are mirrored.

page 21 right has words in the margins in red which refers to the transposition keyword HARDY - and 'standard alph'.


I am having trouble decoding them. Maybe it is not the right keyword, and/or they are not in the right order.


source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADFGVX_cipher


Is what I got:
LBKBBJPLT878P17ZL1J7MC3C6823W6JT34NKFT9Z3RPK13T6OK34MUTKKL4K3BBO7P15ITJ1CB8U
QB3KB73DJLFTO4XT87BOPCY

I would expect something like a sentence as the output not a bunch of seemingly random numbers and letters.. --dave

There is a cipher page here:
http://courses.gdeyoung.com/pages/encryption/ADFGVX.php

The only problem seems to be that ADFGVX code should be in groups of 4 letters not 5.
Ted

I've seen it in groups of 5 also, e.g. in the wikipedia link and here:
http://www.dickason.com/caching/OHMIKY-ADFGVX.html The grouping was done to assist radio operator accuracy, so the grouping is not important I think. --dave

Here is another decoder: http://practicalcryptography.com/ciphers/adfgvx-cipher/
the default keyquare string: 8P3D1NLT4OAH7KBC5ZJU6WGMXSVIR29EY0FQ
it can decrypt and encrypt strings. --dave

*EDIT (PATEL267)
HARDY could be the keyword - it would make sence for it to have a length of 5. There are 5 ADFGVX codes in the book, but we don't know if they are to be decrypted individually or together or in smaller groups eg 3 and 1 or 2 and 2 etc. And, the problem with the above decoder is that you can't change the order of the letters/numbers in the middle.

Good news is that I found this:
http://www.richkni.co.uk/php/crypta/adfgvx.php
You can use this to put in your own formation of the alphabet and numbers. Bad news is that theres a LOT of combinations for this...
*

I think it is a case of testing out the 2^5 combinations. --dave

It may be possible with the longer one to use any alphabet, frequency analysis should then give the correct letters...
It is also possible that the keyword is HARD as the word is written as HARDy...
Also first code does not use V so may be adfgx cipher(slightly different)... (actually all codes have a V - on the first line this occurs in the 4th block of letters --dave)

This is an attempt at frequency analysis on the first section of code.


How did you get that string of letters? - Patel267

I used an online decoder (decoding using adfgx) With any random alphabet.

I think it might just use the standard alphabet (ref. pg21)
Also this might help:
http://rumkin.com/tools/cipher/frequency.php

I think they need to be decoded seperatly, frequency analysis on them decoded all together shows this to be the case.

My theory is that the numbers on the associated pages e.g. 252 on page 10 mathematiciansapology link together the order.. --dave.